Word Confusion: Forth versus Fourth

Posted September 20, 2018 by Kathy Davie in Author Resources, Self-Editing, Word Confusions, Writing

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On the Fourth, you should go forth with the family to picnics and fireworks and lots of fun.

And if you’re going fourth on the forth, it’s a misspelling, ’cause you may be fourth in line, but that forth had better be the Firth of Forth, as that’s the only noun that’s a forth.

Of course, you may be fourth to go forth, in which case, that’s fine.

This Word Confusion pair is a homophone — spelt different with different meanings but they sound the same.

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Exploring Later . . .

You may want to explore “First versus Firstly” for the proper formatting of fourth. It could be useful to also have a look at “For vs Fore vs Four” and “Forte versus Forty“.

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Forth Fourth
Three stylized silhouettes of Greek athlettes running in a clump against a textured gray background
Image from page 311 of Greek Athletic Sports and Festivals, 1910, courtesy of Internet Archive Book Images and has no known copyright restrictions, via Flickr.

There are three of ’em going forth to win that race.
Four orange, red, and green birds on a branch with three of 'em squawking at the fourth on the left
Colourful Four by Takashi(aes256), <https://visualhunt.com/author/672437>, is under the CC BY-SA 2.0 license, via VisualHunt.

That fourth one looks like he’s being scolded by the other three.
Part of Grammar:
Adverb; Proper noun; Preposition Ordinal
Forward


Adverb:
[Literary; formal] Out from a starting point and forward or into view

  • Onward in time, in order, degree, or in a series

Out, as from concealment or inaction

  • Into view or consideration
  • So as to be known or revealed

Away, as from a place or country

And so on

  • Et cetera

Proper noun:
A river in central Scotland, rising on Ben Lomond and flowing eastwards through Stirling into the North Sea

Preposition:
[Archaic] Out of

  • Forth from
Number four in a list, 4th


Adjective:
Next after the third

  • Being the ordinal number for four

Being one of four equal parts of something

[Automotive] Of, relating to, or operating at the gear transmission ratio at which the drive shaft speed is greater than that of third gear for a given engine crankshaft speed, but not so great as that of fifth gear, if such exists

Adverb:
[fourthly] Used to introduce a fourth point or reason

After the third person, position, event, etc.

Noun:
A fourth part

[Music] An interval spanning four consecutive notes in a diatonic scale, in particular

  • [Also perfect fourth] An interval of two tones and a semitone, e.g., C to F

[Music] The note which is higher by a fourth than the tonic of a diatonic scale or root of a chord

[Automotive] Fourth gear

[US holiday; uses initial capital letter; usually preceded by the] Independence Day

Examples:
Adverb:
We rose at dawn and sallied forth.

The plants will bush out, putting forth fresh shoots.

From that day forth, he gave me endless friendship.

“And so on and so forth,” the lawyer intoned.

At considerable risk to himself, John came forth to confess.

Go forth, and conquer.

The author’s true point comes forth midway through the book.

They wrote a paper setting forth their grievances.

Journey forth and see the world, my son.

It’s a rough relationship, going back and forth when each of you is living on a different coast.

We tossed the ball back and forth for awhile.

Proper noun:
There was a shipping forecast area covering Scottish coastal waters roughly from Berwick in the south to Aberdeen in the north, including the Firth of Forth of a storm coming in.

Preposition:
And so she came forth from Abraham and saved the land.

“Steal forth thy father’s house to-morrow night . . .” (Shakespeare).

“And he that loosed them forth their brazen caves . . .” (Shakespeare).

Adjective:
The early part of the fourth century was shaped by Constantine the Great, the first Roman emperor to convert to Christianity.

No, you need to be in fourth position for those notes.

He took the corner at the end of the road in fourth.

I’m in fourth grade.

Adverb:
. . . third, visit popular attractions during lunch; fourth, stay late.

Fourth, you must pay the rent on the first of the month.

Noun:
There were three bedrooms, with potential for a fourth.

Nearly three-fourths of that money is now gone.

He is fourth in the succession.

Magic Bleeds is fourth in the Kate Daniels series by Ilona Andrews.

He came in fourth.

We might find tonic chords with (unresolved) added sixths, but hardly ever with added fourths.

A perfect fourth replaced the major third in a suspended chord.

She downshifted from fifth to fourth as we started up the hill.

What are you doing for the Fourth of July?

Derivatives:
Adjective: forthcoming, forthright
Adverb: forthright, forthrightly, forthwith
Noun: forthcomingness, forthrightness
Adjective: fourth-class
Adverb: fourthly
History of the Word:
Old English, of Germanic origin and related to the Dutch voort and the German fort, from an Indo-European root shared by fore-. Before 950: Old English fēowertha; Middle English fourthe.

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Resources for Forth versus Fourth

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Apple Dictionary.com

Dictionary.com: forth and fourth

Oxford Dictionaries: forth

Shakespeare, William. A Midsummer Night’s Dream. Grapevine, 2019. <https://amzn.to/3En3ZQu>.

Shakespeare, William. King Henry VI, Part 2. Digireads.com, 2004. <https://amzn.to/3AuyfaK>.

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Pinterest Photo Credits:

Colorful Peacock Head by Daniel @colblindor, Water Buck by David Minty, Lions by David Pacey, and Ickworth Park, (NT) 24-07-2011, by Karen Roe are all under the CC BY 2.0 license while Monterey County Fair Military Appreciation Day 2014 courtesy of Presidio of Monterey is in the public domain. All are via Flickr. The backgrounds for the animals have been removed, shadows added, and the they have been resized in Photoshop. Lions was also reversed.

Revised as of 12 Apr 2024
By: Kathy Davie