Word Confusion: All Together versus Altogether

Posted September 29, 2014 by Kathy Davie in Author Resources, Self-Editing, Word Confusions, Writing

Revised as of
20 Oct 2022

Yep, it’s yet another word (and a homonym) that has confused the heck out of me. When do you use all together instead of altogether?

From going through the definitions and examples as well as C.S. Lakin’s tip towards the bottom of the table, I’d say that all together is more physical while altogether (if we ignore the nude possibilities) is more abstract, more adverbial in that it does more to qualify or modify an adjective, verb, another adverb, or a word group.

One way . . . . . . or Another
We’re in the all together . . .

I feel like I need a comma and a now and no the to create a “we’re in, all together now” and then we’ll be off singing or dancing or . . . who knows.

We’re in the altogether . . .

Woohoo, we’re all nekkid!

Let’s all get together . . .

Well, other than that “get” interruption, it sounds as if we’ll be going off to do something.

Let’s altogether get . . .

Mmmm, no, “let’s completely?” or “let’s all in” . . . no, no, this isn’t working.

Are we all together?

Is everyone here?

Are we altogether?

Well, if we use Lakin’s tip, this sentence could translate as:

  • Are we completely . . . yeah, I could see this . . .
    • Are we completely agreed on this?
    • Are we all in for the night?
    • Are we all in agreement?
    • Are we completely tired?
    • Are we all in this together?

Word Confusions . . .

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All Together Altogether

Festival of the Winds 2010 by Newtown Grafitti from Sydney, Australia (All together now Uploaded by clusternote) is under the CC-BY-2.0 license, via Wikimedia Commons.

At the Festival of Winds 2010, the kites were sent up all together.


A nude couple wrapped around each other in front of an empty fireplace

Love in Wiesbaden by Jacob Appelbaum from San Francisco, USA is licensed under CC-BY-SA-2.0, via Wikimedia Commons.

Yep, they’re in the altogether.

Part of Grammar:
Adverb Phrase Adverb 1; Noun 2

Plural for the noun: altogether

Collectively


All in one place or in a group

All at once

Entirely, completely


Adverb:
In total, completely, entirely, wholly 1

Including everything or everyone

In total

Taking everything into consideration

On the whole

All included

All counted

All told

All things considered

Noun:
Used with nude 2

Examples:
They came in all together.

It was good to have a group of friends all together.

There are six bedrooms all together.

Our state governments spend all together about two billion dollars a year.

All together, the purges left hardly a single leader of the 1917 Revolution alive.

Adverb:
That is a different matter altogether.

Altogether his paintings aren’t worth spit.

The opening was, altogether, a success.

After climbing Pikes Peak, the hikers were altogether exhausted.

They were altogether in accord.

Noun:
She posed in the altogether.

We’re, um, in the altogether here.

C.S. Lakin at Live Write Thrive has a useful tip on figuring out when to use which: “If you can substitute completely or all in for altogether, you’ve got the right word. But if you can rewrite the sentence using all together separately, then that’s the way to go.”
History of the Word:
  1. 13th century from Middle English al + togedere.
  2. 1893.

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Resources for All Together versus Altogether

Apple Dictionary.com

Lakin, C.S. “Are You Altogether All Together?” Live Write Thrive. 4 Apr 2014. Web. n.d. <https://www.livewritethrive.com/2014/04/04/are-you-altogether-all-together/>.

Merriam-Webster: altogether (<http://i.word.com/dictionary/altogether>)

Skillin, Marjorie E., Robert M. Gay, and other authorities. Words into Type. New Jersey: Prentice-Hall, Inc. 1974. Third edition. Print, 448

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Before the Deluge by Cornelis van Haarlem (1615), via Wikimedia Commons.

This is a faithful photographic reproduction of a two-dimensional work of art — an oil on panel (RKDimages, Art-work number 40692). It is 65.5 × 107.5 cm (25.8 × 42.3 in) and located in the National Museum in Warsaw, although not currently on view. It is in the public domain and was photographed by pl.pinterest.com, <https://pl.pinterest.com/pin/418905202818407164/>.

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